000 FXUS65 KBOI 290236 AFDBOI AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BOISE ID 836 PM MDT THU AUG 28 2008 .DISCUSSION...NEW 00Z NAM SHOWS ABOUT 7F WARMER MAX TEMPS FRIDAY VIA 850-700 MB THICKNESS TREND...WHICH SUPPORTS OUR AFTERNOON FORECAST PACKAGE VERY WELL. CLEAR SKIES...EXCEPT FOR LOCAL SMOKE... AND LESS WIND ARE ALSO INDICATED THROUGH FRIDAY. COOLING WILL BEGIN IN OUR NWRN ZONES SATURDAY AS A DEEP UPPER TROUGH FROM THE GULF OF ALASKA COMES ASHORE OVER WA AND VANCOUVER ISLAND AND DIGS SEWD. THE TROUGH WILL DEEPEN AND CLOSE OFF AN UPPER LOW OVER ERN OREGON SUNDAY THEN MOVE TO THE ID/NV BORDER SUNDAY NIGHT AND SERN IDAHO MONDAY. LATEST ESTIMATE OF FROPA ARE NEAR 00Z SUNDAY IN SERN OREGON... 03Z-06Z SUNDAY IN SWRN IDAHO...AND 06Z-12Z SUNDAY IN SCENTRAL IDAHO. WIND GUSTS WITH FROPA ARE EXPECTED TO STAY BELOW 40 MPH. WITH 500 MB HEIGHTS LOWERING TO 558DM...SUNDAY AND LABOR DAY WILL BE THE COOLEST DAYS SINCE LAST JUNE...WITH SNOW POSSIBLE ABOVE 7500 FEET. WE DON/T EXPECT ANY PLACE IN OUR CWA TO REACH 70F ON LABOR DAY. HOWEVER...MIN TEMPS WILL BE RELATIVELY MILD DUE TO CLOUD COVER AND POSSIBLE SHOWERS. CURRENT FORECAST LOOKS GOOD...NO UPDATES AT THIS TIME. && .AVIATION...PILOTS REPORTED MVFR CONDITIONS UP TO 10 KFT THIS AFTERNOON FROM SMOKE NEAR FEATHERVILLE IDAHO...JACKPOT NEVADA AND PICABO IDAHO. NORTHWEST WINDS HAVE PUSHED SMOKE INTO THE MAGIC VALLEY CAUSING LOCAL MVFR CONDITIONS BETWEEN 8KFT AND 10KFT ALTHOUGH SURFACE VISIBILITIES HAVE REMAINED VFR. SMOKE COULD BECOME TRAPPED IN MOUNTAIN VALLEYS TONIGHT AS INVERSIONS SET UP CAUSING LOCAL MVFR OR IFR CONDITIONS. OTHERWISE VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES. SURFACE WINDS WILL BE LIGHT WITH LIGHT TO MODERATE SOUTHWEST WINDS ALOFT. && .PREV DISCUSSION... SHORT TERM...WESTERLY FLOW OF DRY AIR CONTINUES OVER THE AREA TONIGHT AND FRIDAY AS PACIFIC HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO DOMINATE. MUCH WARMER TEMPERATURES RETURNING TO THE REGION FRIDAY AS THE THERMAL TROF REBUILDS ALONG THE WEST COAST AND GRADUALLY SLIDES EAST DURING SATURDAY. THIS COULD MAKE SATURDAY VERY TRICKY FOR TEMPERATURES...WIND AND MIN RH WHICH OF COURSE HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR FIRE WEATHER. RIGHT NOW WE ARE FAVORING SLOWER TIMING TO THE UPPER TROF AND FRONTAL PASSAGE SATURDAY EVENING AS THE UPPER TROF SHARPENS UP ALONG THE WEST COAST BRINGING SOUTHERLY FLOW ALOFT INTO THE AREA. THUS...THE TEMPERATURE SPREAD OF SOLUTIONS FOR SATURDAY IS WIDE RANGING...BUT WITH A SLOWER EVOLUTION AND EASTWARD PROGRESSION TO WEATHER FEATURES...A WARMER SCENARIO FOR SATURDAY MAY BE THE MOST CORRECT. POPS ARE MINIMAL ON SATURDAY AND CONFINED TO KPDT AND KMSO AREAS AT THIS TIME. A BETTER CHANCE FOR PRECIP STARTS IN THE EXTENDED PORTION SATURDAY NIGHT AND ESPECIALLY SUNDAY AS BAROCLINICITY INCREASES OVER THE FORECAST AREA AS THE UPPER TROF DEEPENS IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND A BETTER STRUCTURED FRONTAL SYSTEM TAKES SHAPE. LONG TERM...SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...ACTIVE WEATHER AND COOLER TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE PATTERN SHIFTS TOWARDS A FALL TYPE PATTERN. MODELS REMAIN IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN BRINGING A DEEP TROUGH INTO THE NORTHWEST EARLY SUNDAY THOUGH THE LAST THREE MODEL RUNS HAVE BEEN MUCH QUICKER IN TIMING. TEMPERATURES DROP QUICKLY AS TROUGH MOVES OVER THE REGION WITH MONDAY EXPECTED TO BE THE COLDEST DAY. HIGH TEMPERATURES SUNDAY WILL BE 10-13 DEGREES COOLER ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA FROM SATURDAY IN THE WAKE OF THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE SATURDAY. UPPER LEVEL TROUGH SETTLES OVER THE CWA ON MONDAY WITH MODELS SHOWING IT WILL BECOME A CLOSED LOW OVER THE AREA. FALL LIKE TEMPERATURES ON MONDAY AS 556 TO 560 DM 500 MB HEIGHTS OVER THE REGION SUGGEST TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 60S TO LOW 70S. NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF MOISTURE WITH THE TROUGH INITIALLY...UNTIL IT TAPS INTO MONSOONAL MOISTURE FLOWING UP FROM THE SOUTH ON SUNDAY. MODELS SHOWING A MAJORITY OF THIS MOISTURE WILL STAY OVER EASTERN IDAHO INTO MONTANA AND WYOMING. NEWER MODEL RUNS SHOWING MOISTURE FURTHER WEST MAINLY INTO THE CENTRAL MOUNTAINS OF IDAHO AND SOUTHWESTERN IDAHO MOUNTAINS. HAVE ADJUSTED POPS ACCORDINGLY BUT FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS MAYBE NEEDED IF MODELS CONTINUE TO TREND A MORE WESTERLY SHIFT OF MOISTURE. REGION WILL STAY IN BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AS ANOTHER WEAKER TROUGH DROPS DOWN FROM CANADA INTO THE BITTERROOT MOUNTAIN REGION. TEMPERATURES LOOK TO REMAIN AT OR SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL MID WEEK. && .BOI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... ID...NONE. OR...NONE. && $$ WEATHER.GOV/BOISE DISCUSSION...LC AVIATION.....JT PREV SHORT TERM...GS PREV LONG TERM....JS/LH