000 FXUS63 KMPX 232346 AFDMPX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN 546 PM CST MON NOV 23 2009 .DISCUSSION... VERY ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN ABOUT TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST AS A SERIES OF SHORT WAVES FORCE THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN TO BECOME MORE CONDUCIVE OF A PERIOD TO -RA/-DZ...THEN MIXING WITH AND CHANGING TO -SN BY WED/WED NIGHT. SHORT TERM CONCERNS DEAL WITH A STRONG UPPER WAVE ACROSS EASTERN COLORADO THIS AFTN AND HOW THE UPPER LEVEL FORCING BECOMES ELONGATED AND MOVES E/NE ACROSS IOWA/S MN AND WI. ALTHOUGH THERE REMAINS SUBTLE DIFFERENCES IN THE OVERALL EVOLUTION OF THIS STRONG UPPER WAVE...THE MAIN THEME WILL BE A LARGE AREA OF PRECIPITATION DEVELOPING ACROSS NE/IA...THEN SPREADING E/NE ACROSS SOUTHERN MN BY LATE THIS EVENING/OVERNIGHT. BY TUESDAY MORNING/AFTN...THE MAIN INFLUENCE OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MAIN SFC LOW THAT WILL BE MOVING ACROSS THE IA/MO BORDER BY TUESDAY MORNING...THEN INTO SOUTHEAST WI BY TUESDAY EVENING. THIS WILL PLACE THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGES OF WEATHER ELEMENTS ACROSS THE FAR S CWA...BUT STILL LIGHT QPF AMTS DUE TO THE SEPARATION OF THE MAIN FORCING TO THE SE OF OUR REGION. AFTER TUE EVENING...THE NEXT SHORT WAVE WILL BE MOVING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND INDUCE A SECONDARY FORCING AREA SOMEWHERE ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST BY WEDNESDAY AFTN/EVENING. BY LATE WEDNESDAY/THU MORNING... A SECONDARY FRONTAL BOUNDARY OR TROUGH WILL MOVE THROUGH EASTERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE MAIN CONCERNS WILL BE HOW COOL THE LOW LEVELS WILL BE AS THE FIRST SYSTEM EXITS...AND WHERE THE COLD CORE OF THE NEXT SYSTEM MOVES. THE LATEST GFS REMAINS TOO WARM FOR ALL SNOW UNTIL ALL OF THE PRECIPITATION MOVES OUT OF OUR REGION. THE NAM/WRF IS MORE OF A COMPROMISE OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND IS COOLER AND ALLOWS FOR THE TRANSITION OF RAIN TO SNOW BY WEDNESDAY AFTN/EVENING ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA. ALTHOUGH THE GFS DOES SHOW SOME CONTINUITY WITH THE OVERALL PLACEMENT OF THE UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM ON WED/THU...THE NAM/WRF SEEM TO INDICATE SOME PV FORCING (ALONG WITH THE UPPER LOW CLOSE TO OUR CWA) WHICH WILL LIKELY INDUCE MESOSCALE COOLING PROCESSES. THEREFORE...RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW IS LIKELY WEDNESDAY AFTN IN THE NW...THEN INTO THE SE CWA BY LATE WED EVENING. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON WHEN THE CHANGE OVER OCCURS...AND HOW MUCH LEFT OVER FORCING AND MOISTURE REMAINS AS THIS SYSTEM EXITS THURSDAY MORNING. AT THIS TIME...HPC SNOWFALL GRIDS SEEM REASONABLE WITH A BROAD AREA OF 1 TO 3 INCHES ACROSS MOSTLY THE NE 2/3 OF CWA...OR BASICALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF AN ALEXANDRIA...TO ST CLOUD TO FBL LINE. HOWEVER...THIS HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE TRACK OF THE UPPER LEVEL LOW AND IF ANY TYPE OF TROWAL SCENARIO DEVELOPS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS SYSTEM. THE EXTENDED OUTLOOK REMAINS VERY PROGRESSIVE WHICH MEANS ANOTHER WEATHER SYSTEM AFFECTING THE AREA BY SUNDAY. THICKNESS VALUES REMAIN COLD ENOUGH FOR ALL SNOW AT THIS TIME. ..JLT.. && .AVIATION.../00Z TAF ISSUANCE/ INVERTED SURFACE TROUGH IS EXTENDING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ACROSS WRN MN AND WILL GRADUALLY MOVE EAST THROUGH TUE MORNING...ENDING UP IN ERN MN BY 18Z TUE BEFORE WEAKENING. ALONG AND TO THE EAST OF THIS FEATURE WILL CONTINUE SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE NIGHT. THESE WILL GENERALLY BE LIGHT...WITH VISBILITY RESTRICTIONS PRIMARILY CENTERED ON BR/FG/DZ. DEEPEST FOG AND LOWEST STRATUS IS PRESENTLY ALONG THE BOUNDARY AND THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT. KMSP SHOULD SEE 1.7 KFT CIGS NOT LONG AFTER MIDNIGHT. THERE ARE SOME RESIDUAL 1.5 KFT CIGS IN WRN WI TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST OF KMSP...BUT THINK THEY WILL HOLD IN PLACE THROUGH MUCH OF THIS EVE. LIFR CONDITIONS LIKELY AT ALL TAF SITES DURING THE MORNING WITH VERY SLOW IMPROVEMENT TOMORROW DUE TO LIGHT WIND SPEEDS IN THE LOW LEVELS AND RESIDUAL HIGH MOISTURE. KMSP LIKELY TO REMAIN AT OR BELOW 1.7 KFT THROUGH THE ENTIRE MORNING AND POTENTIALLY FOR A BETTER PART OF THE AFTERNOON. SOME SCATTERING EXPECTED IN WRN MN BY AFTN. WINDS TO BE GENERALLY LIGHT THROUGH THIS TAF PERIOD AND SHIFT FROM ESE TO NW AS THE TROUGH PASSES MN AIRPORTS. && .MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MN...NONE. WI...NONE. && $$ JLT/MTF